This might include internal plain link templates ("lkpl"), dedicated article link templates for use on author pages, formatting templates for repeated formatting elements, etc. The article should be linked to from any relevant author pages and suitable portals. FWIW #1: I don't think it makes sense to think about how much work it takes to implement one standard vs. another, the standard itself should be as strong as possible and cleanup work can always be done on a rolling basis. Developed templates for them for the display of their works. Udocumented transcriptions of texts create more problems than they solve. Many texts exist in multiple, differing versions. I am all for someone coming in a working on a project to get things set up properly to present proofread data to our readers, and pathways for our proofreaders. You don't want me writing policy. An FSC plantation timber coffin would be far more sustainable. Secondarily we have Author: namespace which we look at our main curated space. It makes word indexing and searches confusing if not impossible altogether. The Natural Funeral Company in Adelaide will transport the body to the mortuary for storage, and then to the service site and the burial place for $1300. Check the InvoCare website, it lists all of their brands so you know you are getting quotes from different companies. I don't think this needs to be much of an issue going forward -- we all agree that it's OK to create Index pages for scans, even if none of the Pages have been transcribed yet; so the only case where this would come up is recording research where no scan has yet been identified as suitable to be uploaded. We have shared the Portal:Children's literature with Google so far. I'll try to come back with my take on the specifics after reading through the comments more thoroughly. In my mind, at the request, were sharp, readable, and scalable line-drawings and what I got were the beautiful, legended, and colorized for improved readibility for color-blind as per commons guidelines. I receive also the same message when I try to open the djvu file directly. --Jan Kameníček (talk) 23:48, 20 February 2021 (UTC), In the series I am trying to do there is a short article in The Conversation (this is the original article as published by them) that I want to include. And the real dross is usually so bad (no scans, raw OCR, etc) that it can be dealt with outside of this topic. a magazine volume, A table of contents is required for the parent unit in question. CHOICE was told by a Sydney Simplicity Funerals representative that if a family wished to spend some time alone with a deceased family member in their care before the funeral, they could do so at Chatswood Chapel, at a cost of $200 per hour ($3.33 per minute). Back at the end of the 2000s, and early 2010s we said that we wanted to concentrate on a quality product in the main namespace. This first open call will be focussed on Community Organizing proposals. Know your rights before you ring a funeral home, 8-step plan to communicate your perfect send-off. Tip: Ask a funeral director if there are any extra fees that come with sourcing a coffin yourself. I can leave the images out, they are not actually relevant to anything in the story, or I can replace them with images I do have rights to. There are also 100’s of uninhabited islands that can be reached by boat and then explored on foot. [This is imported from WS:PD, where it applies to multiple current proposals, and several other works]. I created Author:Eddie August Schneider (2,220 Ghits) and another editor insists on moving it to Author:Eddie August Henry Schneider (453 Ghits), twice now. Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l. ESEAP Core Organizing Team, Wikimania Steering Committee, Wikimedia Foundation Events Team, 15:16, 27 January 2021 (UTC), there is a problem with transcribing "Tarzan and the Ant Men". The following is required for such a work: In our early years people came here and dumped scans of OCR'd text that was scraped from IA and then walked away. This work should be done by someone more skilled with image manipulation on Wikisource than I. So your real savings may be closer to 10% than 20%, compared with what you would spend on a custom builder. A second open call focused on research and software proposals is scheduled from February 15 with a submission deadline of March 16, 2021. We have quite a few cases of works that are "collective" or "encyclopaedic" in that they comprise many standalone articles of individual value, which are basically just "shell pages", with no substantial content of any sort, not even imported scans or Index pages. There are occasional exceptions to this, which is why I am suggesting to add them as deletion precedent and not as a category for speedy deletion. In previous years, I have helped plenty of people in guiding them in setting up particular works in guidance of this community. It has been said and said => Main namespace takes published works. That guidance and convention has been in place for ten years, and came about due to issues that we were having with author pages at that time, and multiple versions of pages. I have no interest in the matter of delivering that work into an exemplar status. In South Australia you'll also need approval from the council. If you're contracting the services of a funeral director it's important you know your rights before making that first phone call and it helps if you understand how the industry operates. We're turning a blind eye to our end of life planning, with 86% of Australians over 50 not thinking about or making arrangements for their funeral. If the proposal is to set up a fully qualified structure for every periodical where we just want to reproduce one article, then NO. Unfortunately, I cannot use the IA uploader because it does not allow to upload the file as DJVU once it has already been uploaded as PDF :-) I tried to convert it to djvu using some online converters, which sometimes works, but this time the result was very poor. Main namespace pages should be created for the work at the top level and. For example, see Template:New texts/item/testcases for a comparison. Project Grant funds are available to support individuals, groups, and organizations to implement new experiments and proven ideas, from organizing a better process on your wiki, coordinating a campaign or editathon series to providing other support for community building. The aim of these criteria is: To be eligible for inclusion, a component of a collective work (e.g. CHOICE examines your funeral options, and the impact on your pocket and the planet. Especially as the Portal headers never seem to actually link to the mainspace works that exist, but we can fix that. They are outright harmful, because they give a misleading impresion that sometthing reliable has been created. I was working on this page and noticed a reference to page 69 of Hittell's History of California, which doesn't appear to be on Commons or Wikisource as yet. As an author on this paper and it being Open Access can this be uploaded to Wikisource. No need to deprecate anything, just move to the new nomenclature, and not worry about any of the old usage, or anyone continuing its use, as it matters not. 1.djvu and File:Hume - Essays and Treatises on Several Subjects - 1809 - Vol. Because the body is buried at a shallower depth, without preservatives and in biodegradable materials, there is more capacity for microbial activity and aerobic (with oxygen) decomposition. (SurprisedMewtwoFace (talk) 23:40, 27 January 2021 (UTC)). A funeral director from Sydney told CHOICE that the concentration of the industry in Sydney meant prices were going up. Uploading my first book is impossible for maschiene to read, I think that's the prerequisite for further editing. Please tell other users about these changes. a magazine issue). — billinghurst sDrewth 01:38, 24 February 2021 (UTC), Without getting into the specifics, I'd like to validate RAN's frustration. Libby Moloney of Natural Grace Funerals feels the body should be in the presence of loved ones from time of death through to the completion of their funeral ceremony. A funeral is a ceremony that accompanies the final disposition. I do see some value in periodical top pages with decent lists of volumes and scans where known, because these are often tricky and fiddly to compile from Google books/IA/Hathi, so it's not useless work, even if there are no imported scans (though imported is better than not). (SurprisedMewtwoFace (talk) 22:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)). After uploading both of these files, I proceeded to make Index pages for each work, only to find (very disappointingly) that Vol. Contact us at projectgrantsTemplate:Atwikimedia.org. It is great that they are so many and so they deserve to be promoted in their own section. Deisenbe (talk) 09:49, 24 February 2021 (UTC). And then, by-subject, by-author, related things and other curated content (like Portal:Punch has the makings of). (portal: ns pages), Portal pages about occupations? In case you're keeping track, it's been a month and a half since I came back to WS—after an eight-year lull induced by Google+ and whatever else. Can I be buried on private land? I could see if the other editor was contributing to the transcription project, they would have more of say on the esthetics. It is usually much faster to delete these works and then proofread them from scratch, than to try and clean them up before a match-and-split. A second paper I am interested in uploading is this one Principles for creating a single authoritative list of the world’s species of which I am also an author and is also Open Access. 2.djvu, Index:The New Monthly Magazine - Volume 097.djvu, w:Public_domain_in_the_United_States#Sound_recordings_under_public_domain, A Critical Dictionary of English Literature, Bradshaw's Monthly Railway and Steam Navigation Guide (XVI), #Re-purpose_WikiProject_OCR_to_WikiProject_Scans, Journal of English and Germanic Philology, Library’s approach to selection for digitisation, Portal:Executive Orders of the President of the United States, Executive Order on Advancing Racial Equity and Support for Underserved Communities Through the Federal Government, a 1921 reprint is floating around in the University of Pittsburgh's shelves, Translation:The Adventures of Shoemaker Lapitch, Wikimania will be a virtual event this year, Please read the longer version of this announcement on wikimedia-l, #Upcoming_Proposal_Clinics|real-time discussions, Soldier's return, with his kind reception.pdf/3, Wikisource_talk:WikiProject_NLS#Formatting_and_proofreading, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:The_Monster_1925.ia.webm, the most common feature to be pointed out both in positive and a negative feedback, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/File:The_Renaissance_In_India.djvu, Category:Obituaries in The New York Times, Page:William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England (3rd ed, 1768, vol II).djvu/218, https://developers.facebook.com/tools/debug/?q=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikisource.org, Some Fundamental Legal Conceptions as Applied in Judicial Reasoning, The Fairies That Run the World and How They Do It, Thoughts and Reveries of an American Bluejacket, this contributor proposed a Croatian-to-English translation in said namespace, Already discussed thanks to a less-than-promising IA PDF of a Project Gutenberg AU version, User talk:FabioDiNinno#Anthologia Palatina, Taxonomy based on science is necessary for global conservation, Principles for creating a single authoritative list of the world’s species, Index:The Indian Biographical Dictionary.djvu, https://theconversation.com/us/republishing-guidelines, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Index:Tarzan_and_the_Ant_Men.pdf, https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Page:Tarzan_and_the_Ant_Men.pdf/205, https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:TheLostWorldSilent.webm, Index:The Barbarism of Slavery - Sumner - 1863.pdf, https://en.wikisource.org/w/index.php?title=Wikisource:Scriptorium&oldid=10960936, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License, To allow individually-useful articles, or sets of articles, to be transcribed to the main namespace without requiring active transcription of hundreds of pages of unrelated articles. Funerals start from $4000 for a basic cremation to around $14,000 for a casket, burial and flowers, but, like a wedding, there's no end to the amounts that can be spent. 1.djvu, File:Hume - Essays and Treatises on Several Subjects - 1809 - Vol. Humans have been burying their dead since shortly … Please help translate to your language. I would like to request your help in transcluding this book. 1 Chronicles 29:28 I think such preparatory information would ideally be on more centralized WikiProject pages (for the broad subject), both for clarity and to assist in keeping different efforts consistent -- but that it certainly should be retained as visible to non-admins. Basically, if a page has zero or near-zero transcribed content, in my mind it can edge over the line into acceptable as long as it's providing, I've said it before several times, but the aim here is, Another example of a work that changed name, but remained the same fundamental work is, The Scottish Law Magazine [and Sheriff Court Reporter] was originally called the. In Queensland, funeral homes must give clients a written itemised estimate of costs and the terms of trading before the client accepts the provider's service. (Costco delivers the coffins within two days.). Stay tuned for more information about how you can get involved in the planning It is held every year from the 1st till the 28th of February. They have a connection and sense of belonging to their land. I suggest the words "eligible for inclusion" are the problem with some of these criteria. Creating sub-pages (volumes or issues) should follow the article inclusion criteria. Show me with the pathway to have quality proofread page. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:31, 30 August 2020 (UTC), For your example, I would have gone for "Golfers Magazine/YYYY/article name" and then slapped down {{header periodical}} at the root level, as we get more years, then we can break it down further. The point is that these works often have so many volumes (often dozens or hundreds) that they must have their own page, and cannot be merged into a larger portal or wikiproject. 2) on Archive.org or similar, though I wouldn't be surprised if the missing pages are exactly the same as the same numbered pages in a later edition. (SurprisedMewtwoFace (talk) 20:13, 22 February 2021 (UTC)), Although I'm fairly new here, it seems that there is no consensus on the inclusion of long S and ligatures during proofreading. a CC BY 4.0 work, not including the template, may be a copyright violation. Build the content, work with the users to build the content. a single magazine article), should satisfy the following criteria: The proposal, as is, would require inhibit the ad hoc transcription of articles from "The Times", eg. When CHOICE rang a Simplicity Funerals office in Sydney to ask about the costs of a funeral, we were told that a price list wasn't available and instead figures were quoted over the phone. If I had a particular interest in presenting any periodical in a creation to termination work, then I would have done so. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 13:37, 21 January 2021 (UTC). — Sam Wilson 23:07, 10 February 2021 (UTC). It is fair to not wish to transcribe entire volumes of these work, it is fair to not want to import dozens of scans when you only wanted one, it is fair to only want an article or two, but it's not fair, IMO, to expect the first person who wants to add an article to have to do all the groundwork themselves, despite having been lured in with a blue link. I also think it is reasonable to have a contents page in the mainspace, as it allows transclusion of articles. Use {{. — billinghurst sDrewth 01:33, 24 February 2021 (UTC), Comment I have removed "this is a draft" from Wikisource:Naming conventions. Long s is allowed in main namepsace on a case by case basis where the long s is significant to the work. If you come across such research done by others and misplaced, follow the above process to relocate it to an appropriate place, then redirect the page where you found it to the new location. And it is massive numbers of nominations that cause problems. Professor Roger Short from the University of Melbourne believes natural burials to be the most sustainable way forward for Australia. This should not be happening where we have populated the Commons category with images from one edition. In order of publication, along with status checks: To Xover (talk • contribs), SurprisedMewtwoFace (talk • contribs), Jan.Kamenicek (talk • contribs), and anyone else interested: If you've got anything further on the matter, then please ping back. As long as a single article exists, it's not "trivial" (e.g. I would like to ask about the general opinion of changing some parts (e. g. pictures) of old book editions by WS contributors in our main namespace. I do still think we should be requiring the front matter, but perhaps only when we have scans. Further the policy refers to "Random or selected sections of a larger work". --Jan Kameníček (talk) 10:44, 9 February 2021 (UTC), I am now done transcribing Tarzan and the Ant Men. If you want to talk about setting up compilations then come to me to talk. The project reminds me of the medieval monks preserving literature during the dark ages between the Fall of Rome and the Renaissance. This provides a place for people to incrementally add content. In Victoria, a funeral director must provide a copy of the price list (and a coffin price list) to anyone who asks about the price of its goods or services. It is the nature of our community. I know that I have worked with 100s, maybe 000s of people over the years to assist them to work that way. Put your idea into motion, and submit your proposal by February 10, 2021! I moved on, life is too short. Because you will have to pay for your water usage once connected, you might also want to get an idea of local rates. (You can stop after this point, without worry that your work will later be discarded.). I vehemently, Unless anyone knows of an periodical that's already "perfect" (, Community writes documentation, it is neither an, I am not blaming people for not knowing. (portal: ns pages), Files that we host onsite, be they book, image, or video(file: ns files). These categories are what are Wikidata matched to occupations and interwiki'd; and I would think that we would avoid if possible subcats being their own items, or at least accepting that the will not match much. Deisenbe (talk) 10:08, 24 February 2021 (UTC), Animal Life and the World of Nature/1903/06/Notes and Queries, Collaboration with Google around Children's literature, Proposal to convert usage of header "categories" to proper categories—ongoing, RFC: Categorisation of occupations (continued), Download links appearing in Page: namespace, Commons categories—editions vs works and wikidata items, Tarzan and the Ant Men (1924) done transcribing, Improving old editions by Wikisource contributors, Reinstate license templates in exported texts, Found another version of The Lost World (1925), Problems with opening DJVU files and their Index pages, Tarzan and the Ant Men (1924) done proofreading, The Lost World (1925) New version available, Removing references to Wikisource in Wikipedia. Some outfits call coffins made of MDF 'eco' but MDF has resin binders made of toxic formaldehyde. It also owns and runs many Sydney crematoria, cemeteries and mortuaries, as well as LifeArt coffins. This is necessary to prevent a bottleneck. The only challenge I now face is getting the older file removed from Wikimedia Commons so I can upload the new one. What I would like to hear is people's opinions to how we categorise the following: Are these new subcategories of occupation? Please feel free to get in touch with questions about getting started with your grant application, or about serving on the Project Grants Committee. — billinghurst sDrewth 10:33, 3 February 2021 (UTC), Comment Periodicals are major undertakings, and unless you approach them as such then expecting magic to occur with them is just ridiculous. ACA Funeral Supplies have a range of Australian-made coffins, including a seagrass woven coffin with willow support and seagrass handles. They'll store the coffin for six months and deliver it. At this stage I am not proposing that we remove the ability for categories in this manner, though I am proposing that where this style of addition is used, that there is a bot replacement to convert those categories into traditional style cat, and that this bot be run as an ongoing tool. And removing the word "obituary" from the ones with it? See. This page was last edited on 26 February 2021, at 02:40. Often editors use a "non-breaking space" to make a gap between two items when reading but still show them together. I think by doing so I am helping WP users. Please support us in translating the project page and a banner message to help us spread the word in your native language. accompanied by good illustrations. One source says it will likely contribute less than 30kg of CO2. --, If I have not made it clear, this is an amazing project, everyone deserves praise for their hard work. JesseW (talk) 01:08, 6 July 2020 (UTC). I tried with this user, but they were not interested in building proofread content. This was one of the requested texts from 1924 and I hope I was helpful. --Neo-Jay (talk) 13:29, 25 January 2021 (UTC), Comment redirects are a useful means to add alternate names; they are cheap to the system and used intelligently can be really helpful. Say, Indexes, basic templates, a title page and one example article. However, there are other options, as Costco shoppers now know. Name the songs, poems, passages – even your favourite dish or drink. Whether or not to transcribe this formatting is left up to the transcriber. " (Gutenberg's pdf has the glyphs as an image, so they're readily available online.) Such a page can serve an important function linking content together in ways that help the reader (and search engines) find the content they're looking for, or understand the context around it. — billinghurst sDrewth 09:55, 21 January 2021 (UTC), Maybe we are missing classification based on "rank" or "position" at Category:Authors though in a tenured sense it is hard to capture that and would hate to have to manually assign. Inductiveload—talk/contribs 15:43, 3 July 2020 (UTC). I have been using the copy of the Book from Hathi Trust to add the images, and this copy has a clean page here. 2 Index Talk page. Also gives "false positive" blue links, since there is actually no "real" content from the work itself, or. My work on this text is now complete, thanka for all the help you provide. Could I please request the bot flag back for User:InductiveBot? That said all these templates can come later. But if we don't have the scans, and that's what the user wants, they're leaving anyway. The policy says "When an entire work is available as a djvu file on commons and an Index page is created here, works are considered in process not excerpts." I was wondering if we could have a vote on whether or not to make these a requirement. The export links being visible drive a lot of downloads: the featured texts get around 4000 downloads each: https://wsexport.wmflabs.org/statistics (which, if I'm reading that page right is about 2/3 of all epub downloads) and nothing that's not a featured text gets a look in. I think these pages are necessary to list index pages and external scans of multi-volume works (such as encyclopaedias and periodicals) especially if they are wholly or partly anonymous or have many authors or are simply large. The body must be in a heavy shroud and not a coffin. These bulk loads and dumps into the main namespace are not much different. Main namespace pages should be created for the work at the top level and any intervening levels (e.g. Is this the sort of thing that should be rendered as it was in the olden days, or is it OK to silently modernise it? I can upload the pdf I have the rights for that, but I cannot separate out the images and do the same as far as I can tell. Conventional burials involve anaerobic (without oxygen) decomposition of the body, producing methane, a potent greenhouse gas. Thanks in advance, Ottawahitech (talk) 21:34, 11 February 2021 (UTC), @PseudoSkull: I have found another version of The Lost World (1925) without the inserted credits and music credit. I was going to disagree with the removal of the scan section, but if it is downgraded to "if possible", since the current global policy is pretty much "scans if at all possible", it doesn't need to be repeated. Cheers Faendalimas (talk) 17:37, 18 February 2021 (UTC), I am not able to open any index of a DJVU file. Can someone give me a tip how I can continue. I am happy to do the first or second suggestions to resolve. [This is a proposal stemming from the #Policy on substantially empty works section below. (main namespace pages or subpages), Portal pages about people? It's not my thing to have a smattering of random timetables, but as long as they're individually presented nicely, it's not too offensive to my sensibilities. You can read more about Google Read Along here: https://readalong.google/. series) and so on, Redirects from alternative names (e.g. If the proposal is an effort to have articles from a periodical becoming part of a hierarchy of the periodical, ie. Feel free to ask any questions that you might have. Books that are not biographies but treat the profession? Burial in a shroud instead of a coffin requires an application to the relevant Chief Health Officer (NSW) or their delegates and must meet certain conditions. Thanks. Y'all sure know how to pick the difficult issues…, Now, in terms of a WikiProject to scan back works, I think that is a good idea. InvoCare's former chief executive officer Andrew Smith described pricing in the industry as "inelastic" – because only 15% of us are inclined to shop around when someone dies. The casket is not buried or cremated with the deceased, and is returned to be re-used by another family. The few skills that I have lie elsewhere. When CHOICE asked a Simplicity Funerals representative from Sydney about bringing the body home for a period, we were told we'd need to have the body embalmed at a cost of $1000. Perhaps if all the headers are identical, there could be a formatting helper, but not critically needed.
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